Greg Kidd of 3Taps #293

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Today, on This Week in Startups, Greg Kidd of 3Taps joined the program to unpack his legal battle with Craigslist. Craigslist sued 3Taps earlier this year for copyright violation, and 3Taps recently counter-sued, alleging unfair and anti-competitive business practices.

1:00 Welcome everybody, today we have Greg Kidd of 3Taps on the program.
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5:00 My guest today is Greg Kidd of 3Taps. Welcome to the program. Tell me, what is 3Taps?
7:00 You keep bringing up PadMapper.com, which I heard about a few years ago. Is that data primarily from Craigslist?
9:00 Craigslist isn’t necessarily losing anything because the user will ultimately end up there, correct?
9:45 In a nutshell, what is their argument?
11:45 What user data do you have access to?
12:45 Is your position that Craigslist terms of service are overreaching?
14:30 Explain why statistics and facts cannot be copyrighted.
17:00 Do you think Craigslist is being hypocritical in giving Google access?
20:00 Why is this so important to you, personally?
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25:00 Are you being hypocritical saying that Twitter is an example when they’ve been shutting down APIs and developer access?
28:30 Why doesn’t Craigslist blow out the frame on PadMapper?
30:30 What about the use of images?
33:30 Let’s talk about Craigslist’s tactics, like going after individual developers.
35:00 How much would you be willing to pay for the data?
36:00 Why don’t you create a search engine to aggregate all the posts?
36:15 Insight from Tyler: It’s like a valet at a public parking lot.
38:15 Do you know when this would go to trial?
40:00 What have your lawyers told you about your chances?
40:45 Why do you think Craigslist doesn’t want people innovating around their data?
42:15 Do you do any human normalization of the data?
44:00 Are there any constituents who have asked to join your side?
45:00 Tyler: What happens if either side wins?
46:15 How do you make money?
49:00 Tyler: What happens if Greg comes out on top in the ruling? Is Airbnb information indexed by Google?
50:33 Greg, thank you for being on the program. Everyone check out 3taps.com to stay informed on this important issue.
50:45 Thank you to GoToMeeting and Stamps.com for supporting the show. We’ll see you all next time!

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